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    waynebridges
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    I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT BROUGHTEN RED NETAR WILL KILL HUMMINGBIRD. IS THIS TRUE?


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    narnian
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    No, probably not, (I don’t know if there has been an actual study done)  but…consider how small a hummer is (they weigh less than an ounce) do you really want to put artificial dyes in their food, especially when it causes so many problems in humans who weigh so much more?…

    It is very simple to make your own nectar…use 4 parts water to one or 2 parts sugar, I shake mine in a jar with lid and store what I don’t use in the refrigerator.

    Remember the ratio is 4:1 (but can be stronger when birds are leaving for migration or just returning)

    * Perhaps our hummingbird expert (Mark aka txhummers) will tell us more.


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    CatsBirds
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    They don’t recommend using anything with dyes in it. I use Narians formula all the time.. I keep a couple cups made up and in the fridge.

    And I do make it a bit stronger the last of September when they start migrating south…


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    CatsBirds
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    Natural nectar is colorless, and adding red dye to a hummingbird nectar recipe is simply adding one more chemical to the birds’ food – a chemical they do not need. Red dye has no nutritional value for the birds, and unofficial studies have not shown hummingbirds to have any significant preference for visiting feeders with red dye when compared to feeders offering clear nectar. Instead, the strength of the sugar solution and the cleanliness of the feeders are more instrumental in the birds’ feeding preferences.

    The key point in deciding whether or not red dye is harmful to hummingbirds is this: there is no conclusive research saying the dye is dangerous to the birds, but there is also no long term research saying it is safe. When making a decision about red dye for nectar, many backyard birders prefer to be cautious and avoid unnecessary and potentially dangerous chemicals.


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    Gayle
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    What is Broughten Red Nectar ?  I make my own but I do put red food coloring in it.


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    Coryandme
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    I think he might mean store bought red nectar – just a typo.


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    bwatcher
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    I never buy nectar because it’s so easy to make. Companies put red dye in to attract them, but it isn’t necessary if the feeder has red on it. To get my first hummers, I tied a big red bow with long ribbon streamers on it to the pole where the feeder was hanging. The red streamers flying in the wind is what got their attention. I think they can smell the sugar also.

    I never put dye in my nectar. I put 1 cup water in a pint jar and add 1/4 cup white sugar, and shake until all the sugar is dissolved and then dump it into the feeder. You could just stir it also. The hummers and the orioles eat it just fine. Orioles supposedly like a 5:1 ratio but they always want to eat out of my hummer feeders, so I reamed a hole out in my one feeder just for them. When I hung out an oriole feeder the hummers ate from it also, so it doesn’t matter what the ratio is and it doesn’t have to be exact or perfect. The oriole feeder was orange, so color doesn’t matter to them either. As I said, I think they can smell sugar water.

    Welcome to this site. Glad to see you here and come back again.


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    JSong
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    Learned something here.  I thought it was for sure that the red dye hurt hummers.  I know someone so allergic to it.  She can’t drink or eat anything with artificial red color.


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    Molly04
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    I use 1/4 cup sugar to one cup water & add a small amount of cherry kool-aid.  My hummers fight over it.  One female guards the feeders, she will sit either on one of my patio plants or in a tree a short distance away & when another hummer comes to the feeder she chases them away. I have 3-4 feeders in different trees so that they have access to the feeders.


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    Jennifer D
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    I agree with most of the replies. I never add red dye to my homemade nectar since it has been shown by various sources that red nectar is not a variable in attracting hummingbirds and the addition of the dye can be harmful to the birds. It’s just not necessary and is basically a marketing device. I use distilled water mixed with regular white sugar at a ratio of 4:1 (during times of feeding babies and when they’re preparing for migration when they need extra calories to put on extra weight, I increase the sugar by about 1/2-3/4 of a cup). If I don’t have distilled water I bring the mixture to a boil in order to rid the water of any possible contaminates, then cool it in the fridge. You can also leave a container of uncovered tap water on the counter for a day or so which will allow it to release chlorine and other toxins that might be present. I cover the extra nectar and store in the refrigerator. I also check nectar in the feeders daily and if there’s any cloudiness I dump it, clean and sterilize the feeder, then refill it. I do the same for the stored nectar if I don’t use it within a few days. Since making nectar at home is so easy and I go through it so quickly, I never buy commercial premade nectar. Not only would it be expensive, I prefer to control what goes into the nectar. Good luck to you!


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    Stelios
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    Jennnifer, good idea about the water. I’ve always wondered how all those chemicals they insert in water affects wild life. It’s not good for us, then how could it be good for birds, especially delicate ones like hummingbirds.


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